Hate Math? Looking for a Career?

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
03/07/2016 at 19:21 • Filed to: None

Number 4 on this largely laughable list of jobs, many of which require a high degree of numeracy, is Lawyer . One of the most preferred undergraduate degrees by law schools is mathematics because of logic and proof.

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DISCUSSION (22)

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
03/07/2016 at 19:29

I have one of those math things.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
03/07/2016 at 19:33

As one who teaches math to 12-year-olds, I refuse to acknowlege that “math things” exist. Just because you do not lust after a Calculus textbook doesn’t mean you are not numerate.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
03/07/2016 at 19:36

Hmm I really wanted to be a math teacher long ago. Keep mulling over back to school but I chose not to.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
03/07/2016 at 19:40

I’m one of the ones who failed at lots of things then became a teacher. Guaranteed employment for life! Woo-Hoo! In truth: I love it and I love the math. Pre-Algebra, 12-year-olds, five times in a row every day. I drove my ‘97 GMC Safari from the Pacific to the Atlantic three times, twice pulling a tent trailer, during the summers. It’s a great job if you’re cut out for it. The problem is, too many teachers aren’t cut out for the work and they’re guaranteed employment for life.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
03/07/2016 at 19:43

Kids are getting screwed everywhere. I didn’t learn a damn thing until I went to college. I miss the novelty of being uneducated, motivated, and eager. And with education getting increasingly more expensive, more and more fringe college students will be turning away.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
03/07/2016 at 19:51

I never passed Algebra in high school. Now I have a math degree and I teach secondary math. Then again, I never had me as a teacher.

Sam > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
03/07/2016 at 19:53

I just looked at this list yesterday. I thought I was going to get an engineering degree, but I could never do complex math for the rest of my life.

pjhusa > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
03/07/2016 at 19:54

Ah, Pre-Algebra. Those were the days...

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Sam
03/07/2016 at 19:57

The cutoff for making money with a college degree is freshman Calculus. If you can get a degree that requires a year of freshman Calculus, then you are on track to a better paying job. Software does all of the math, you just need to understand the processes.

I thought I’d study mechanical engineering, but I couldn’t handle how competitive the other students were, so I studied math instead.

samssun > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
03/07/2016 at 20:09

Undergrads with math backgrounds are preferred precisely because so many lawyers lack the skills. Not a single prelaw I went to school with picked a quantitative, engineering, or applied science major because GPA is everything. Putting aside their heavy verbal leanings, they can't afford to pick a "hard" major, hence all the lawyers saying math isn't their thing while working billion dollar mergers.

samssun > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
03/07/2016 at 20:10

As an engineer, our joke was always that we were like math majors except we used numbers.

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
03/07/2016 at 20:22

Irony is a difficult word to define but you know it when you see it.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > samssun
03/07/2016 at 20:25

A history teacher at work tried to scathe me the other day via email. No hard classes and they still can’t write. A “pure” math degree, done well, requires good writing. I have a cousin who is a chemical engineer who works at a plant in Virginia. I have a lot of respect for that guy. He’s also a very hard worker...

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn
03/07/2016 at 20:27

Peter Sagel said it best: “I hope the passengers on the Titanic packed their irony .”

thebigbossyboss > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
03/07/2016 at 20:47

I too make money from my college degree. It did not require math.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > thebigbossyboss
03/07/2016 at 21:42

That’s kind of vague...

The Transporter > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
03/07/2016 at 22:05

The ones that aren’t good at math become politicians, which explains a lot.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > The Transporter
03/07/2016 at 22:38

Or Ethnic Studies teachers.

Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
03/07/2016 at 22:52

First things first, now is a terrible time to become a lawyer. The jobs aren’t that high paying and there aren’t that many of them.

But more to your point, yes, people who understand math tend to do well in some particular areas of legal analysis in my experience. But as is often the case in life, it's not set in stone.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Neil drives a beetle and a fancy beetle
03/07/2016 at 23:34

A guy I knew with a mysterious curriculum vitae once argued to me that the entire field of mathematics was founded upon assumptions. As a math teacher, I would argue that high school mathematics, particularly Algebra, should be viewed as a discipline worth pursuing for its own sake and either followed or not, just like music lessons.

You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
03/08/2016 at 09:18

Mysterious C.V. You have piqued my interest.

As to the article there are a lot of jobs on that list that would lead me to question the persons abilities if they were to tell me they were bad at math. Power plant operator for one. Would you really trust a guy to run a power plant if he hated and didn’t understand math?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much
03/08/2016 at 09:30

Power plant operator for Number One! Whoever made up that list had their head in their duffle bag. As for the CV, it was a guy who got a doctorate in philosophy or something else and did something spooky for Army intelligence. He’s not that old, maybe midforties. I’m kind of curious now, myself. I’ll learn a bit more and post back.